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Hello. If you have landed on this page it probably means you followed the link in The Rebel Playbook from our play about Crawford & Company and are looking forward to watching a rebel interview with Pauline talking about their organizational transformation project, using the "systems thinking" approach.

We have to admit that we got a little bit over excited when writing the book and created a small handful of links to interviews with rebels that we haven't been able to talk to yet. Sorry about that!

If you'd like to learn more about systems thinking and how to apply to your organisational practices, a good place to start is this amusing TED Talk by Tom Wujec:



We also have a great selection of interviews with some other amazing HR rebels which you can search for on our Featured Rebels page, or take a look at our YouTube channel for more inspiration and further learning on Job Design.